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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

Crystal Palace transmitter - Crystal Palace transmitter: Possible effect on TV reception week commencing 15/04/2024 Pixelation or flickering on some or all channels Digital tick


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London),

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 Dave ja vu, 58 ITVBe +1, 59 ITV3 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 78 TCC, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 89 ITV4 +1, 91 WildEarth, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 267 Al Jazeera English, plus 30 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 Yesterday +1, 75 That's 90s, 233 Sky News, plus 11 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 W, 27 Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! romance, 56 That's TV (UK), 61 GREAT! movies extra, 63 GREAT! romance mix, 71 That’s 60s, 73 HobbyMaker, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
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White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Sunday, 4 March 2012
Transmitter engineering
sentiment_very_satisfiedOwner

4:31 AM

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - Analogue BBC ONE Weak Signal from 09:01 yesterday BBC ONE Weak Signal from 07:53 on 29 Feb to 16:39 on 29 Feb BBC ONE Weak Signal from 17:37 on 28 Feb to 07:53 on 29 Feb BBC TWO Weak Signal from 09:03 yesterday BBC TWO Weak Signal from 07:53 on 29 Feb to 16:37 on [BBC] Over the next week Crystal Palace main transmitter: TV (analogue) Possible weak signal, TV (digital) working normally, Radio (analogue) working normally, Radio (digital) working normally. [DUK]

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darren
6:03 PM

I have to say folks if this is what freeview is going to be like then blow this for a lark, my new video only as freeview in it so really i have lost all my channels i dare not watch any programme that says 1 of 2 or 1 0f such programmes coz when i turn the box back on theres no channels i am not pleased at all ! I live in Southend-on-sea so we have 3 BBC and ITV stations to pick from, its a nightmare !

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Monday, 5 March 2012
Transmitter engineering
sentiment_very_satisfiedOwner

4:31 AM

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - Analogue BBC ONE Weak Signal from 09:01 on 03 Mar BBC TWO Weak Signal from 09:03 on 03 Mar [BBC] Over the next week Crystal Palace main transmitter: TV (analogue) Possible weak signal, TV (digital) working normally, Radio (analogue) working normally, Radio (digital) working normally. [DUK]

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Transmitter engineering
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4:31 AM

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - Analogue BBC ONE Weak Signal from 09:01 on 03 Mar BBC TWO Weak Signal from 09:03 on 03 Mar [BBC] Over the next week Crystal Palace main transmitter: TV (analogue) Possible weak signal, TV (digital) working normally, Radio (analogue) working normally, Radio (digital) working normally. [DUK]

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10:31 AM

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - Analogue BBC ONE Weak Signal from 09:01 on 03 Mar BBC TWO Weak Signal from 09:03 on 03 Mar [BBC] Over the next week Crystal Palace main transmitter: TV (analogue) Liable to interruption, TV (digital) working normally, Radio (analogue) working normally, Radio (digital) working normally. [DUK]

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10:31 AM

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - Analogue BBC ONE Weak Signal from 09:01 on 03 Mar BBC TWO Weak Signal from 09:03 on 03 Mar [BBC] Over the next week Crystal Palace main transmitter: TV (analogue) Liable to interruption, TV (digital) working normally, Radio (analogue) working normally, Radio (digital) working normally. [DUK]

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Ashley
1:27 PM

For some reason from today I have lost all freeview hd channels done a rescan now it don't even pick them up I live in the sidcup area has anyone else noticed this

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LesG
2:07 PM
Reading

Thanks to David and FJC Farrar for some useful input. As an update to my situation issues have continued. It starts to look as if its mainly happening during morning TV, then clears for the afternoon and early/ peak evening, then starts again after about midnight or 1 a.m. As an ex IT systems person this looks suspiciously like scheduled work to minimise the disruption to (presumed) main viewers. Not much use if you are a shift worker, or (like me) record stuff on BBC3 and 4 in the early hours. I agree with David that we should raise this wherever possible. I have written to Watchdog, BBC reception and Digital UK. The BBC have trotted out the usual "help" and I have contacted Digital UK on their advice. I have been given a case number by the Beeb at least and will follow up with them depending on the DigitalUK response. I am not expecting much comeback, but I feel I should follow all avenues before escalating further. The irony is that all the engineering reports talk of weaker signals on analogue BBC 1 and 2, but mine (on my old Panasonic CRT TV) have never seemed better!

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FJC Farrar
sentiment_satisfiedBronze

5:05 PM
Camberley

LesG: What you describe is also typical of the effects of the RF reflective sky-layers, which tend to move up & down around dusk & dawn, affecting "skip-distances". If you are already in an area with lowish signals, you will either get drop-out periods twice in 24hrs - or just as likely only have good periods only twice a day. Again, when power is increased (and it is going to increase signal levels a lot!) at final switchover, most such effects will disappear. Be patient.

Incidentally, why Crystal Palace when Reading is smack in the middle of Hannington's coverage?


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FJC Farrar
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5:31 PM
Camberley

As a rider relating to the lack of information etc. leading to people buying new equipment:
Since if reception fails anywhere, there seems to be no way of directly reporting this; I fail to see how DUK can state Transmitters are working normally. Surely they can only report that as far as they are aware nothing has been done which has changed reception.
The clue is "as far as they are aware" since there seems no possible way in which they could be aware if reception had changed. Maybe if they had stated that DTV reception COULD be affected during the lead-up to final switchover we would have been satisfied?

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