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Freeview reception at WR13 5DP



List is for aerial group type: wideband group A group B group C/D group E group K

ch name signal strength direction transmitter
C23multiplex D3+4 England Central (West micro region)
east 101°Lark StokeV
C26multiplex BBCA England West Midlands
V
C29multiplex SDN England (COM4)
south 186°MalvernV
C30-Freeview HD multiplex BBCB (PSB3) National
east 101°Lark StokeV
C31-multiplex Arqiva-A (COM5)
south 186°MalvernV
C33+multiplex SDN England (COM4)
east 101°Lark StokeV
C36multiplex Arqiva-A (COM5)
V
C37multiplex Arqiva-B (COM6)
south 186°MalvernV
C41multiplex BBCA England West Midlands
V
C44multiplex D3+4 England Central (West micro region)
V
C47-Freeview HD multiplex BBCB (PSB3) National
V

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Sunday, 16 April 2017
MikeP
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10:34 PM

MikeB:

If that is the case then what would be the correct term, that users would understand, for a TV set with at least 1080p resolution and with a DVB-Ts tuner?

On this website, it has been the convention that 'HD Ready means a TV that is capable of displaying 1080p images but does not have a DVB-T2 tuner. The term 'Full HD' has been used here for quite some time and is taken to mean a TV set capable of showing 1080p images but is fitted with a DVB-T2 tuner so that it is capable of receiving the transmissions of HD channels, such as BBC1 HD on PSB3 multiplexes.

A great many viewers as confused by terms that are not descriptive accurately of the product and marketing people as amongst the biggest culprits in confusing the viewing (and buying) public.



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StevensOnln1
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11:12 PM

MikeB: HD Ready = 720p/1080i, Full HD = 1080p. Neither indicate the type of tuner - there are plenty of Full HD TVs with DVB-T tuners and plenty of HD Ready TVs with DVB-T2 tuners.
TVs with a DVB-T2 tuner are labelled either Freeview HD or Freeview Play for some smart models made by manufacturers who have adopted the Freeview Play smart TV platform. TVs with a DVB-T tuner will be labelled Freeview, regardless of the the resolution supported by the panel.

I fully agree that the marketing is confusing but referring to tuners by talking about screen resolution doesn't help.

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Monday, 17 April 2017
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MikeB
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8:59 AM

StevensOnln1: Agree with the HD Ready v Full HD divide - its simply the display, and was certainly around in 2008 (Full HD cost more), before DVB-T2 tuners were even tested.

If you want to see what people who ask questions on this site think that terms mean, you can see an evolution in the question they ask. At the time of digital switchover, when people could finally get HD via their aerial, the complain was 'the person who sold me the TV said I could get HD - so why not?'. And you'd have to point out that the panel is HD, but the tuner is not. Then you got 'I've just bought a TV which is Full HD, but I can't get HD on it - why not?' And you'd have to point out that it was a cheap TV which wasn't equiped with an HD tuner, and the emphasis on 'HD' was a bit of a scam (which the govt finally sorted out last year). Now, its 'why can't I get Talking Pictures?'

I'd expect a TV to be labelled 'Freeview HD' these days, although even LG still has one TV in their range with just a DVB-T tuner, which really annoys me (it took us ages to twig that it didn't have HD, because thats just expected these days).
However, Freeview Play is different - its a smart function, and its nothing to do with the tuner (although I'd be amazed if such a set didn't have an HD tuner as well). Sony's use Youview, which works in a similar way, but current Samsungs still just use apps (which smart TV's also use, even if they have Freeview Play/Youview), but of course have Freeview HD, etc. So just as the tuner and the panel resolution are seperate, so is the particular smart functionality.

To be honest, this debate is slightly out of date. 85% of the sets in a main showroom will be 4K, and all of those will have a DVB-T2 tuner, plus a possible sat tuner, be smart, have wifi, etc. You will be lucky to find an HD panel at anything above 50in, and the likes of Panasonic has just one model of HD TV from 32-49, and even Samsung has just two. And the prices are increasingly very similar - you'll pay just thirty pounds more for the decent 2016 Panasonic x600 4K set in a 40in than you will for the Samsung 5500 HD set. I was shocked to find that the 49in Samsung HD which I've always liked was more expensive that the rather better 4K Samsung equivalent.

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MikeP
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11:19 PM

MikeB & StevensOnln1:

So it appears that the concensus leans towards refering to a DVB-T2 equipped TV as a Freeview HD model then.

This discussion illustrates the confusion created by not having an agreed term adopted by all the major manufacturers. No wonder the non-technically aware viewing public are confused!

Thanks for the input, I will use the term Freeview HD for such sets infuture.



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Tuesday, 18 April 2017
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js
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12:26 PM

Also note that generic devices with DVB-T2 demodulators (there as many DVB-T2 TUNERS as there are digital aerials) will fail to decode the BBC ENCRYPTED EPG for services on the T2 multiplexes, producing what is often described as "Chinese" programme titles/descriptions.

An advantage of such devices is their ability to record programmes as transmitted, where "Freeview HD" devices will encrypt them to disk.

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Friday, 12 May 2017
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Martin Matthews
8:36 AM

We are using Freeview in a rented property at EX22 7LS, house name South Hockwill but on auto tune, the Panasonic Freview TV will only time to ITV Central, not South West. The BBC on channel 1 is tuned to South West. Do you have any suggestions for us to receive ITV South West?

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MikeP
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9:17 AM
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Martin Matthews:

According to the 'digitaltrade uk' data you should be using Caradon Hill transmitter which only transmits West Country services, so it is likely that your TV is getting signals from somewhere else. Your aerial should be aimed at a bearing of 198 degrees. Look at Which Freeview channels does the Caradon Hill transmitter broadcast? to check which channels you should be using to get the services you want.



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Ralph Morris
9:27 AM

Yesterday (and today) Llanddona stopped transmission of 'Ch46' for a while (around 0700). Retuning yesterday promoted BBC 1 Northern Ireland (sic!) to the No.1 spot, delegating BBC (Wales) to the 800 series - but Sky News re-appeared on Ch132. Later in the day, BBC (NI) was reported an "untuned". Another re-tune returned everything to normal (BBC (Wales), Sky News on 132 and no mention of Northern Ireland!).
I'm just curious if anybody knows what is going on and for how much longer. And can I look forward to BBC (Orkneys) transmitting from the Llanddona aerial (:

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StevensOnln1
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12:07 PM

Martin Matthews: I think you might be looking at ITV HD which carries the Central region on Freeview in the South West (ITV Westcountry West HD & South West HD are currently only available via satellite but will be on Freeview eventually). If you change to channel 3 you should have ITV Westcountry South West. You certainly aren't within range of any Central region transmitters.

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StevensOnln1
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12:13 PM

Ralph Morris: Rather than anything happening at Llandonna, you were more likely experiencing lift conditions which allowed you to receive one of the transmitters in Northern Ireland at a higher strength than would be available under normal reception conditions. Retuning whilst this is happening isn't recommended as it can result in your TV retuning to the wrong transmitter as you have experienced.

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