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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - AM: Off the air due to essential engineering from 19 Mar 10:04. . BBC


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.

Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London),

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 Dave ja vu, 58 ITVBe +1, 59 ITV3 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 78 TCC, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 89 ITV4 +1, 91 WildEarth, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 267 Al Jazeera English, plus 30 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 Yesterday +1, 75 That's 90s, 233 Sky News, plus 11 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 W, 27 Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! romance, 56 That's TV (UK), 61 GREAT! movies extra, 63 GREAT! romance mix, 71 That’s 60s, 73 HobbyMaker, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Wednesday, 25 April 2012
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NICK ADSL UK
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10:40 PM

Well for the record I've lost all free view from crystal palace today not sure what that's all about but the signal since the switch over has defiantly halved and both my myself and long time engineer are stumped

This is the very first time since 1970 i can remember a down time from crystal palace and yet they tell me everything is sweet their end

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Thursday, 26 April 2012
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Steve
10:24 AM

Hi. I live in Sevenoaks, Kent and have always received good Freeview from Crystal Palace transmitter - both before and after switchover. My main TV is connected to a rooftop digital aerial which is boosted and pointing at CP and I have another TV connected to an indoor aerial which is also boosted and pointing at CP. I'm currently getting excellent reception from both TV's. However, yesterday I received a message on my main TV telling me that I would have to retune on 9th May? - else I'd lose some channels. I only received this message on the TV connected to the rooftop aerial - not on the other TV connected to the indoor aerial. Interestingly, while retuning on the 18th April, my main TV showed some channels were apparently coming from Cambridge? Is there a transmitter in the Cambridge area which is about to be switched over during May? - and could I be receiving channels through my rooftop aerial to my main TV from two transmitters?

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Tim
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11:28 AM
Radlett

Steve, your roof aerial must be receiving signals from Sandy Heath as there is a retune event in May, if you go to the Sandy Heath page on this site the details are list.

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Steve
11:53 AM

Thanks Tim. Question is - If I retune as message suggests will I then get Sandy Heath local news etc? I would much rather stick with London news from Crystal Palace.

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Kevin Hodges
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11:58 AM
Chelmsford

Steve, look on your menus for the manual tune option. Crystal Palace is on channels 23,26,25,22,28 (plus HD is on ch30)
Good luck

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tim
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12:21 PM
Radlett

I agree with Kevin do a manual tune otherwise you will get
BBC East/ Anglia news no use to you in Kent.

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Dave Lindsay
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12:32 PM

Steve: Your most likely Anglia transmitter would seem to be Rouncefall and Sudbury (which operate on the same channels). These are higher up that Crystal Palace, so run the automatic tuning scan and unplug the aerial when it gets to 30%. If it's Sandy Heath that you're picking up, then its Public Service channels are 27, 24 and 21, so the unplugging aerial trick won't avoid these if they are able to be picked up with your aerial.

What I would say is that, presumably, Crystal Palace is the "main" transmitter and Sudbury or maybe Sandy Heath is/are in the 800s. If this is so, then what you've experienced suggests that the TV displays messages applicable to all transmitters to which it is tuned and not just the "main" one.

It "may" be that the message relating to the Sandy Heath retune is also broadcast by Sudbury and relays of the two. I wonder if this is the case as if it weren't, then there would need to be a way of "inserting" this message for Sandy Heath broadcasts and not Sudbury ones.

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Steve
1:20 PM

Thank you all for your suggestions - Something else I might try is to turn down the gain on my rooftop aerial amplifier - It occurs to me that I wasn't getting this problem before switchover and the digital power ouput was increased. The Triax amp gain is currently set on max (around 22 db I think) So perhaps I can reduce the sensitivity towards the other more distant transmitters and just home in on Crystal Palace. Interesting problem though - I wonder if anyone else is experiencing this overlap?

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Kevin Hodges
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1:35 PM
Chelmsford

Steve, it may well be the case that there's now no need for an amp at all, bearing in mind that you also get a good signal from at indoor aerial. The other thought I had is your roof aerial still aimed at CP?


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Katie
1:37 PM

Got a problem with my Bush. Was fine before the switchover but now it just won't settle.

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