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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

Crystal Palace transmitter - Crystal Palace transmitter: Possible effect on TV reception week commencing 13/05/2024 Pixelation or flickering on some or all channels Digital tick


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London),

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 78 TCC, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 267 Al Jazeera English, plus 30 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 Yesterday +1, 75 That's 90s, 233 Sky News, plus 11 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 W, 27 Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! romance, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 71 That’s 60s, 73 HobbyMaker, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
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Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Thursday, 25 August 2011
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Chris Low
1:10 PM
Romford

RM3 9DE Roof Mounted

I have purchased a new Samsung HD BluRay/PVR and cannot receive any freeview channels on it despite having no problems receiving them on my 5year old Panasonic Freeview TV.

Having read some of the other comments it does appear that older sets may have a better sensitivity and that as I am probably due a new aerial it would be the way to go.

I currently receive my signal from Crystal Palace & would appreciate your advice on what type I need to buy (ie Log Periodic or Wideband) & size.

Many Thanks

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Mike Dimmick
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11:42 PM

Chris Low: For now I'd go with an 18-element Group A Yagi. The prediction suggests - because it's below 100% with DUK's assumptions - that a log-periodic probably wouldn't have enough gain.

You do not need a wideband for Crystal Palace either now or after switchover, it is unlikely that any new services would start up after switchover that are outside this group. Widebands have to be larger to provide the same amount of gain as a grouped aerial, particularly in Group A.

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Friday, 26 August 2011
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jb38
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8:40 AM

Chris Low: If you can receive Freeview perfectly OK on the Panasonic but not on the new Samsung (on the same aerial) then a simple booster is all that should be necessary to correct this, as changing your aerial would be like taking a sledge hammer to crack a nut, to use the expression!

Have a look on e-bay under "TV amplifiers" or "boosters", something shown as about 10db gain would suffice so long as its shown as having two outlets, one lead to each device.

(Maybe you could indicate the model number of your new purchase)

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jb38
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9:58 AM

Chris Low: You should also be aware that Mux 1/2 (BBC & ITV) presently indicate as being variable in reception at your location, and with this continuing until April 18th next year, so even although taking the predictors element of inaccuracy into account good reception isn't guaranteed on these two multiplex channels no matter what you might do.

That said though, the booster I mentioned should certainly get over the problem you mentioned "if" its caused by a signal just under its receiving threshold, although I am a bit suspicious of you not getting anything and that's why I requested its model number.

Just for a matter of interest, boosters are generally always better as near to the aerial as you can get them "if" excessively long downleads are involved, (loft mounting perfectly OK though) although based on what you report anywhere in the vicinity of the TV or PVR being used should be OK if a weak signal is the reason for your problem, and not caused by a fault in your new purchase.


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graham campbell
8:12 PM

About 16 months ago purchased a Sony DVD recorder. About 3 years ago had new aerial installed on my chimmney stack. Annalogue reception good, digital reception thru DVD recorder has become appalling,impossible to see picture accompanied by loud screeches. Sony (via DVD supplier) state not their problem, Supplier wont change DVD recorder to one that will work with poor signal.Now "up a gum tree" what do i do?

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Andy Hagerty
11:00 PM

Hi

I have had a Panasonic HDTV recorder that up until 10 days ago received HDTV ok (albeit with a low signal). I have now lost all HDTV. Is there a problem/work with Crystal Palace. I live in Leatherhead and know that it is a bit "iffy" here.


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Saturday, 27 August 2011
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jb38
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9:31 AM

graham campbell: Well what both Sony and the DVD supplier have said is quite correct, as they aren't responsible for you receiving a poor signal, this aspect of reception possibilities unable to be checked on as you havent mentioned where you are located (pref:post code) nor anything about your aerial being used, such as loft or roof mounted, or maybe even on a communal system.


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jb38
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9:56 AM

graham campbell: Apologies, just noticed that you did state that your aerial was on the chimney, if you indicate your location the signal expected at your location can then be checked on.

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3:22 PM

Andy Hagerty: As it says above, there are no problems with the transmitter. I would have a look at Freeview reception has changed? | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice .

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MRS CLAIRE EVANS
5:10 PM
High Wycombe

HP15 6NN. High Wycombe. Please can you email me an explanation? (As I am nearly 80 I cannot understand complicated instructions.) I had a new digibox installed on Wednesday, using the very helpful & efficient BBC Switchover Help Scheme. The engineer said I had a poor signal from my aerial (best available 10 years ago & I have had no previous problems.) He put up a new aerial facing exactly the same direction as my old one (however not the same as all my neighbours.) He could not remove the old aerial as his ladder was not long enough. I have 2 sets & now use my bedroom TV mostly. After he left I was unable to get the digibox to work. My other TV (app. 18 months old) was still OK. But after teething problems, & re-tuning it via the Help number, it worked spasmodically, but I could not get all channels all the time.
Today is a different story - my bedroom TV has "no signal" & broken-up picture with bad static & will not change channels. The sitting-room TV is now also affected in the same way, but at 5pm I can get some freeview channels.
(Apologies for this long explanation.) Is there a problem at Crystal Palace? Do I just have to accept that from now on, I am unlikely to get a proper service until next April? If the Switchover Engineer returns to try to sort me out, I have to accept what I am told (i.e. I live in the wrong area!) If there are no problems at your end, do you think it is the aerial being sited incorrectly? Thank you very much, in anticipation of a reply. Claire Evans

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